How much beer had you had to drink when typing this question?
Jesus didn't turn water into beer. It was wine and not only wine, but the very best of all wines. And not grape juice either.Is it true that Jesus did turn water into beer after 4 attempts?
He didn't say He did but I'll tell you what, when you see Him and whether you believe you will or not you will, so why don't you ask Him? I'm sure he'll be as amused at the question as you are. Is it true that Jesus did turn water into beer after 4 attempts?
No that was the devil and that happened after he said out your name in a dream.
:O i wish i could turn water into beer :P
Nope.
stop eating ****!
yep, he was a lush who could not handle his beer
I don't really like beer that much. hmm Prefer wine.. red wine.
Friday, February 12, 2010
Is it true that Jesus Christ turned dead people into zombies?
Not quite...he turned perfectly normal people into dumb@rses.Is it true that Jesus Christ turned dead people into zombies?
When Jesus died on the Cross bodies were resurrected, yes, and great numbers saw them and knew that they had been dead. However, these resurrected bodies were not decayed or decaying. They did not act like zombies either. They did not go around trying to kill people, they just wanted to see their saviour. Jesus was not a zombie either and He rose from the dead and then ascended into Heaven right in from of all these people. They knew it was Jesus because they knew Him but also He showed them the holes in his hands and feet and side. It is thrilling to read about and know that He is coming back at the rapture. Man that is REALLY gonna be amazing.Is it true that Jesus Christ turned dead people into zombies?
NO!
GOD Bless YA,
Chicago Bob. (Imasinner)
Please pray for our Country and Our President (DAILY)
There is more Joy in JESUS in 24 hours, Than there is in the World in 365 Days. I have tried them both.(ME TO)
R.A. Torrey.
No.
Zombies feed on flesh - they didn't.
Zombies bite people to convert them.
Zombies can't talk or even walk properly - they're mindless with only one thing on their mind, and that's food.
Zombies don't walk on water.
Yep -- which pretty much makes ';Dawn of the Dead'; the unofficial sequel to ';The Passion of the Christ';...
Not only can he turn other dead people into zombies, but he can turn himself into a zombie!!! Yayyyyy !!!!!
yes, much in the same way when a doctor uses his powers called a defibrillator to turn dead people into zombies too.
I'm reading PATIENT ZERO right now where Middle Eastern terrorists are trying to unleash zombies in the USA.
Yes. Just read your Gospels, and you shall see.
Although it's not clear whether Jesus did this or God the Father, if one is making a trinitarian distinction.
Not that I've heard...
Oh, you mean that he resurrected people?
I believe he did. After all, he IS God... so he absolutely should be able to :P
Only Lazarus and himself.
That's what the bible says. Although, I doubt the zombies were the brain eating type.
Jesus: The Jewish Sky Zombie
Yes.
No.
ah...no...this is what our public schools are spitting out? that is sad.
no that's what separates him from the normal undead he can't infect others
yes my son peace be with you
When Jesus died on the Cross bodies were resurrected, yes, and great numbers saw them and knew that they had been dead. However, these resurrected bodies were not decayed or decaying. They did not act like zombies either. They did not go around trying to kill people, they just wanted to see their saviour. Jesus was not a zombie either and He rose from the dead and then ascended into Heaven right in from of all these people. They knew it was Jesus because they knew Him but also He showed them the holes in his hands and feet and side. It is thrilling to read about and know that He is coming back at the rapture. Man that is REALLY gonna be amazing.Is it true that Jesus Christ turned dead people into zombies?
NO!
GOD Bless YA,
Chicago Bob. (Imasinner)
Please pray for our Country and Our President (DAILY)
There is more Joy in JESUS in 24 hours, Than there is in the World in 365 Days. I have tried them both.(ME TO)
R.A. Torrey.
No.
Zombies feed on flesh - they didn't.
Zombies bite people to convert them.
Zombies can't talk or even walk properly - they're mindless with only one thing on their mind, and that's food.
Zombies don't walk on water.
Yep -- which pretty much makes ';Dawn of the Dead'; the unofficial sequel to ';The Passion of the Christ';...
Not only can he turn other dead people into zombies, but he can turn himself into a zombie!!! Yayyyyy !!!!!
yes, much in the same way when a doctor uses his powers called a defibrillator to turn dead people into zombies too.
I'm reading PATIENT ZERO right now where Middle Eastern terrorists are trying to unleash zombies in the USA.
Yes. Just read your Gospels, and you shall see.
Although it's not clear whether Jesus did this or God the Father, if one is making a trinitarian distinction.
Not that I've heard...
Oh, you mean that he resurrected people?
I believe he did. After all, he IS God... so he absolutely should be able to :P
Only Lazarus and himself.
That's what the bible says. Although, I doubt the zombies were the brain eating type.
Jesus: The Jewish Sky Zombie
Yes.
No.
ah...no...this is what our public schools are spitting out? that is sad.
no that's what separates him from the normal undead he can't infect others
yes my son peace be with you
Did the prophecy of Hollywood & Rome came true: Jesus is a white guy with blue eye = Russians in Israel?
The next Jesus will be born into a Russian family in IsraelDid the prophecy of Hollywood %26amp; Rome came true: Jesus is a white guy with blue eye = Russians in Israel?
only one is or was neededDid the prophecy of Hollywood %26amp; Rome came true: Jesus is a white guy with blue eye = Russians in Israel?
don't be so Euro-centric, Jesus was a latino one of the good guy, didn't you know the mexicans were headed back east then you know to the land of milk and honey, that's why they come here now. we are the new land of Milk and Honey, or if the libs have it there way soy milk and whole wheat
You're confused.
NO.
What?loreal hair
only one is or was neededDid the prophecy of Hollywood %26amp; Rome came true: Jesus is a white guy with blue eye = Russians in Israel?
don't be so Euro-centric, Jesus was a latino one of the good guy, didn't you know the mexicans were headed back east then you know to the land of milk and honey, that's why they come here now. we are the new land of Milk and Honey, or if the libs have it there way soy milk and whole wheat
You're confused.
NO.
What?
Why won't you heathens accept the one true God, Jesus Christ? And, moreover, why do you hate him?
Let's face it, I should be worshiped. At least I'm real.Why won't you heathens accept the one true God, Jesus Christ? And, moreover, why do you hate him?
Only an illogical christian would make such a dumb statement. You don't even realize that jesus is not the big fairy itself. Moreover, why are you so ignorant that you do not realize that people who do not believe in your fairy friend cannot possibly hate it. It is people like you with attitudes like yours that we dislike so intensely.Why won't you heathens accept the one true God, Jesus Christ? And, moreover, why do you hate him?
I don't know of any of my esteemed atheist colleagues hate your god or jesus, since god does not exist and jesus was nothing more than a persuasive orator that could convince the masses of all they wanted to hear (sorta like hitler). It is zealots like you that evoke extreme dislike in us, because regardless of our view of the world we still are affected by your theist law in the USA.
Trust me... leave us alone and we will reciprocate in kind.
I don't hate Jesus, I just don't think he was divine. I think he had some valuable things to say in the sermon on the mount. It would be lovely if Christians focused more on that that on Leviticus and Genesis.
And right back at ya. Do you accept Buddhist principles? If not, why not?
there is no proof of god. and the ';proof'; you people do claim to have, fails in the face of logic, reason and science. therefor, if jesus existed, wich all proof says he did not, then it would be impossible for him to be god, since god does not exist.
we cannot hate something that does not exist, but the hate, pain and injustices we have witnessed leads us to beleive it is dangerous, and not love based, and we dispise the very idea of it.
I think the major problem here has actually been highlighted by the hateful, spitting comments that have been returned to your question - along with the wording of your question itself.
Your question seems to be accusational towards all who do not believe as you do - firstly by calling us ';you heathens';, and then by accusing us of hating a figure in your belief system (ie Jesus Christ).
How would you feel if we were to call you ';you God Botherers'; or something of the like?
Like breeds like - as you would put it ';Do unto others as you would have them do unto you';. If you want respect - treat others with respect. If you want people to respect your views - respect theirs.
You believe the Christian ';version'; of God to be the one true version - whist every other belief system is shouting the same thing.
So how do I explain it...think of it this way.
You are one of 3 people sitting in a darkened room with a candle burning in the centre. Each person is looking at the candle from a different angle, and describes what they see...whose description is correct?
One person calls it a candle, one a wax stick, another a source of light - whose ';name'; is more correct? Is there only ';one true answer';?
Similarly there are millions of people in this world, all looking at this idea of God. Each person sees and experiences this idea from a different perspective. Each person calls this idea a different name - some use the word ';God'; some ';Goddess'; some ';Allah'; some ';the divine being'; - who is more correct?
It is ridiculous to argue about words, ideas and definitions. Instead of concentrating on the difference - how about focusing on the similarities - after all, we are all looking at the same candle!
Nothing logical about being a christian. Your name is a paradox.
Why do so many self-righteous christians feel the need to force their narrow and bigoted views down everyone's throat?
Why can't you accept that some people are more enlightened and realise that there is no god?
The 10 Commandments State ';Do not worship a false God before me.'; These were handed down to Moses long before Jesus came along.
Only Christians have taken it upon themselves to replace God with Jesus, on account of some illogical triad thing that makes absolutely no sense.
The other original religions of Abraham (Judaism and Islam) worship God, but have not place Jesus ahead (or on parallel) with him. I believe this is the correct thing to do.
I believe Jesus may have existed and was a great man, but a God he is not, nor do I believe our creator intends for us to worship him. Otherwise, there would've been some kind of footnote in the 10 Commandments.
The workings of men created this worship of Jesus. It is their folly that misleads you.
Jesus is ';NOT'; God.. he even said so himself
really you are blind.. sorry
from your own bible brother.. read! open your eyes
John 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me
If you call me a heathen, I'm not even going to read the rest of your question. Why do most fundies insist on name-calling? I find that very anti-Christian. And why do you hate heathens? At least we have a sense of humor.
Because you touch yourself at night.
Now close the Bible, get off this website, and go EDUCATE YOURSELF. At the very least, hang out in the ';Science and Mathematics'; section of the site, instead of the Religion section.
Atheists do not hate. Christians and Muslims hate. Religion is a blight on the possibility of a perfect world.
Evidence. With your God, or any other, there is no evidence.
I don't hate him either. I just think he's a fairy tale.
We won't accept because we don't find the proof to be substantial enough. And we don't hate that which we don't believe exists....
Because I like the way the word 'heathen' sounds. There is a thin line between love and hate, and my eyesight isn't what it used to be. I didn't see the line.
If you really want to know about these things and are not just carrying on then watch this video. It is extremely informative:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=鈥?/a>
Use that ';logic'; when watching...
Why should I hate a character of fiction?
And why should I accept him???
I also don't accept or hate ET.....
What gives you the right to call people heathens just because they don't believe the same as you? Stop trying to stir up crap and go thump a bible somewhere else.
dude this world will accept God then people like you start living the bible and not acting like correction officers for Christ.
Why won't you heathens accept the one true God, Jesus Christ?
-Get on you're knees and worship Hannah, you foul creature!
why do you hate him?
-It's a mutual hatred, he doesn't love me.
Troll, troll, troll your boat, gently down the streeeeeeam...
I don't typically hate things which do not exist.
For the same reason I hate Shylock from ';The Merchant of Venice';...
Don't hate him. You have to believe in something to hate it!
Learn some subtlety, troll.
Now class, for the 30 millionth time, YOU CAN NOT HATE WHAT DOES NOT EXIST.
Your fault.
You don't live up to your name.
If you were logical, then you would not be a Christian
I don't hate dead people
i want some proof of true-y-ness
Only an illogical christian would make such a dumb statement. You don't even realize that jesus is not the big fairy itself. Moreover, why are you so ignorant that you do not realize that people who do not believe in your fairy friend cannot possibly hate it. It is people like you with attitudes like yours that we dislike so intensely.Why won't you heathens accept the one true God, Jesus Christ? And, moreover, why do you hate him?
I don't know of any of my esteemed atheist colleagues hate your god or jesus, since god does not exist and jesus was nothing more than a persuasive orator that could convince the masses of all they wanted to hear (sorta like hitler). It is zealots like you that evoke extreme dislike in us, because regardless of our view of the world we still are affected by your theist law in the USA.
Trust me... leave us alone and we will reciprocate in kind.
I don't hate Jesus, I just don't think he was divine. I think he had some valuable things to say in the sermon on the mount. It would be lovely if Christians focused more on that that on Leviticus and Genesis.
And right back at ya. Do you accept Buddhist principles? If not, why not?
there is no proof of god. and the ';proof'; you people do claim to have, fails in the face of logic, reason and science. therefor, if jesus existed, wich all proof says he did not, then it would be impossible for him to be god, since god does not exist.
we cannot hate something that does not exist, but the hate, pain and injustices we have witnessed leads us to beleive it is dangerous, and not love based, and we dispise the very idea of it.
I think the major problem here has actually been highlighted by the hateful, spitting comments that have been returned to your question - along with the wording of your question itself.
Your question seems to be accusational towards all who do not believe as you do - firstly by calling us ';you heathens';, and then by accusing us of hating a figure in your belief system (ie Jesus Christ).
How would you feel if we were to call you ';you God Botherers'; or something of the like?
Like breeds like - as you would put it ';Do unto others as you would have them do unto you';. If you want respect - treat others with respect. If you want people to respect your views - respect theirs.
You believe the Christian ';version'; of God to be the one true version - whist every other belief system is shouting the same thing.
So how do I explain it...think of it this way.
You are one of 3 people sitting in a darkened room with a candle burning in the centre. Each person is looking at the candle from a different angle, and describes what they see...whose description is correct?
One person calls it a candle, one a wax stick, another a source of light - whose ';name'; is more correct? Is there only ';one true answer';?
Similarly there are millions of people in this world, all looking at this idea of God. Each person sees and experiences this idea from a different perspective. Each person calls this idea a different name - some use the word ';God'; some ';Goddess'; some ';Allah'; some ';the divine being'; - who is more correct?
It is ridiculous to argue about words, ideas and definitions. Instead of concentrating on the difference - how about focusing on the similarities - after all, we are all looking at the same candle!
Nothing logical about being a christian. Your name is a paradox.
Why do so many self-righteous christians feel the need to force their narrow and bigoted views down everyone's throat?
Why can't you accept that some people are more enlightened and realise that there is no god?
The 10 Commandments State ';Do not worship a false God before me.'; These were handed down to Moses long before Jesus came along.
Only Christians have taken it upon themselves to replace God with Jesus, on account of some illogical triad thing that makes absolutely no sense.
The other original religions of Abraham (Judaism and Islam) worship God, but have not place Jesus ahead (or on parallel) with him. I believe this is the correct thing to do.
I believe Jesus may have existed and was a great man, but a God he is not, nor do I believe our creator intends for us to worship him. Otherwise, there would've been some kind of footnote in the 10 Commandments.
The workings of men created this worship of Jesus. It is their folly that misleads you.
Jesus is ';NOT'; God.. he even said so himself
really you are blind.. sorry
from your own bible brother.. read! open your eyes
John 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me
If you call me a heathen, I'm not even going to read the rest of your question. Why do most fundies insist on name-calling? I find that very anti-Christian. And why do you hate heathens? At least we have a sense of humor.
Because you touch yourself at night.
Now close the Bible, get off this website, and go EDUCATE YOURSELF. At the very least, hang out in the ';Science and Mathematics'; section of the site, instead of the Religion section.
Atheists do not hate. Christians and Muslims hate. Religion is a blight on the possibility of a perfect world.
Evidence. With your God, or any other, there is no evidence.
I don't hate him either. I just think he's a fairy tale.
We won't accept because we don't find the proof to be substantial enough. And we don't hate that which we don't believe exists....
Because I like the way the word 'heathen' sounds. There is a thin line between love and hate, and my eyesight isn't what it used to be. I didn't see the line.
If you really want to know about these things and are not just carrying on then watch this video. It is extremely informative:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=鈥?/a>
Use that ';logic'; when watching...
Why should I hate a character of fiction?
And why should I accept him???
I also don't accept or hate ET.....
What gives you the right to call people heathens just because they don't believe the same as you? Stop trying to stir up crap and go thump a bible somewhere else.
dude this world will accept God then people like you start living the bible and not acting like correction officers for Christ.
Why won't you heathens accept the one true God, Jesus Christ?
-Get on you're knees and worship Hannah, you foul creature!
why do you hate him?
-It's a mutual hatred, he doesn't love me.
Troll, troll, troll your boat, gently down the streeeeeeam...
I don't typically hate things which do not exist.
For the same reason I hate Shylock from ';The Merchant of Venice';...
Don't hate him. You have to believe in something to hate it!
Learn some subtlety, troll.
Now class, for the 30 millionth time, YOU CAN NOT HATE WHAT DOES NOT EXIST.
Your fault.
You don't live up to your name.
If you were logical, then you would not be a Christian
I don't hate dead people
i want some proof of true-y-ness
4 TRUE BELIEVERS N JESUS CHRIST ONLY.IF U HAD A DREAM OF DA WORLD ENDING,DO U BELIEVE IT IS A WARNING 4RM GOD?
I HAD ONE, AND OF COURSE SATAN COUNTERACTED MY BELIEF.4 TRUE BELIEVERS N JESUS CHRIST ONLY.IF U HAD A DREAM OF DA WORLD ENDING,DO U BELIEVE IT IS A WARNING 4RM GOD?
It could be, but maybe you are just too anxious about it.
It could be, but maybe you are just too anxious about it.
Christians, where in the bible does Jesus claim to BE the one and true god?
I read somewhere that Jesus never claimed to be unequivocally god, that he always said he was the son of god, etc.
I just want to know if this is true.Christians, where in the bible does Jesus claim to BE the one and true god?
Here you go, clear as can be in John 10:30
John 10:25-30
25Jesus answered, ';I did tell you, but you do not believe. The miracles I do in my Father's name speak for me, 26but you do not believe because you are not my sheep. 27My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. 29My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all[d]; no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand. 30I and the Father are one.';Christians, where in the bible does Jesus claim to BE the one and true god?
I'd like to add that, if Jesus is indeed ';one'; with God in a literal sense, then you may wish to revise the thought of a trinity to one including many more gods as part of the same whole. This is because Jesus said that his followers were all ';one'; with each other, and wanted them to be in union with him and God. - John 17:21-24
Well... Jesus is the Son of God.
John 3:16
';For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.';
1 Corinthians 1:9
';God, who has called you into fellowship with his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, is faithful.';
1 John 4:15
';If anyone acknowledges that Jesus is the Son of God, God lives in him and he in God.';
I hope that helped. (=
When He forgives sins
When He accepts worship
When He commands the powers of nature
When He raises the dead
When He cures lepers by an act of His will
When He rises from trhe dead
Jesus spent His entire public life doing things only God can do. Is it necessary that He say ';I AM GOD'; in words? Actions speak louder than words.
First - here's the background that all of the Jews knew.
1. God met Abraham as three men.
Genesis 18:1-2 The LORD appeared to Abraham near the great trees of Mamre while he was sitting at the entrance to his tent in the heat of the day. (2) Abraham looked up and saw three men standing nearby. When he saw them, he hurried from the entrance of his tent to meet them and bowed low to the ground.
2. God says His name is ';I AM';.
Exodus 3:13-14 Moses said to God, ';Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, 'The God of your fathers has sent me to you,' and they ask me, 'What is his name?' Then what shall I tell them?'; (14) God said to Moses, ';I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'I AM has sent me to you.'';
Now, here is Jesus' claim:
John 8:57-58 The Jews therefore said to him, ';You are not yet fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham?'; (58) Jesus said to them, ';Most certainly, I tell you, before Abraham came into existence, I AM.';
Their response?
John 8:59 At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds.
Why? They did not believe him and they knew this law.
Leviticus 24:16 anyone who blasphemes the name of the LORD must be put to death. The entire assembly must stone him. Whether an alien or native-born, when he blasphemes the Name, he must be put to death.
P.S. When Jesus is saying He is one with the Father, He is talking relationally. Jesus is one with the Father in more than one way.
i don't recall him saying he was God specifically. You need to understand the trinity to understand Jesus's role. and since you know about it all thats left is understanding it
It is called the trinity.
The most difficult thing about the Christian concept of the Trinity is that there is no way to adequately explain it. The Trinity is a concept that is impossible for any human being to fully understand, let alone explain. God is infinitely greater than we are, therefore we should not expect to be able to fully understand Him. The Bible teaches that the Father is God, that Jesus is God, and that the Holy Spirit is God. The Bible also teaches that there is only one God. Though we can understand some facts about the relationship of the different persons of the Trinity to one another, ultimately, it is incomprehensible to the human mind. However, this does not mean it is not true or not based on the teachings of the Bible.
Keep in mind when studying this subject that the word ';Trinity'; is not used in Scripture. This is a term that is used to attempt to describe the triune God, the fact that there are three coexistent, co-eternal persons that make up God. Understand that this is NOT in any way suggesting three Gods. The Trinity is one God made up of three persons. There is nothing wrong with using the term ';Trinity'; even though the word is not found in the Bible. It is shorter to say the word ';Trinity'; than to say ';three coexistent, co-eternal persons making up one God.'; If this presents a problem to you, consider this: the word grandfather is not used in the Bible either. Yet, we know there were grandfathers in the Bible. Abraham was the grandfather of Jacob. What should be of real importance is that the concept that is represented by the word ';Trinity'; does exist in Scripture. With the introduction out of the way, Bible verses will be given in discussion of the Trinity.
1) There is one God: Deuteronomy 6:4; 1 Corinthians 8:4; Galatians 3:20; 1 Timothy 2:5.
2) The Trinity consists of three Persons: Genesis 1:1; 1:26; 3:22; 11:7; Isaiah 6:8; 48:16; 61:1; Matthew 3:16-17; Matt 28:19; 2 Corinthians 13:14. In the passages in the Old Testament, a knowledge of Hebrew is helpful. In Genesis 1:1, the plural noun ';Elohim'; is used. In Genesis 1:26; 3:22; 11:7 and Isaiah 6:8, the plural pronoun for ';us'; is used. That ';Elohim'; and ';us'; refer to more than two is without question. In English, we only have two forms, singular and plural. In Hebrew, you have three forms: singular, dual, and plural. Dual is for two ONLY. In Hebrew, the dual form is used for things that come in pairs like eyes, ears, and hands. The word ';Elohim'; and the pronoun ';us'; are plural forms—definitely more than two—and must be referring to three or more, in this case Father, Son, Holy Spirit.
In Isaiah 48:16 and 61:1, the Son is speaking while making reference to the Father and the Holy Spirit. Compare Isaiah 61:1 to Luke 4:14-19 to see that it is the Son speaking. Matthew 3:16-17 describes the event of Jesus' baptism. Seen in this is God the Holy Spirit descending on God the Son while God the Father proclaims His pleasure in the Son. Matthew 28:19 and 2 Corinthians 13:14 are examples of three distinct persons in the Trinity.
3) The members of the Trinity are distinguished one from another in various passages: In the Old Testament, ';LORD'; is distinguished from ';Lord'; (Genesis 19:24; Hosea 1:4). The LORD has a Son (Psalm 2:7, 12; Proverbs 30:2-4). Spirit is distinguished from the “LORD” (Numbers 27:18) and from ';God'; (Psalm 51:10-12). God the Son is distinguished from God the Father (Psalm 45:6-7; Hebrews 1:8-9). In the New Testament John 14:16-17, Jesus speaks to the Father about sending a Helper, the Holy Spirit. This shows that Jesus did not consider Himself to be the Father or the Holy Spirit. Consider also all of the other times in the Gospels where Jesus speaks to the Father. Was He speaking to Himself? No. He spoke to another person in the Trinity—the Father.
4) Each member of the Trinity is God: The Father is God: John 6:27; Romans 1:7; 1 Peter 1:2. The Son is God: John 1:1, 14; Romans 9:5; Colossians 2:9; Hebrews 1:8; 1 John 5:20. The Holy Spirit is God: Acts 5:3-4; 1 Corinthians 3:16. (The One who indwells is the Holy Spirit - Romans 8:9; John 14:16-17; Acts 2:1-4).
5) The subordination within the Trinity: Scripture shows that the Holy Spirit is subordinate to the Father and the Son, and the Son is subordinate to the Father. This is an internal relationship and does not deny the deity of any person of the Trinity. This is simply an area which our finite minds cannot understand concerning the infinite God. Concerning the Son see: Luke 22:42; John 5:36; John 20:21; 1 John 4:14. Concerning the Holy Spirit see: John 14:16; 14:26; 15:26; 16:7 and especially John 16:13-14.
6) The tasks of the individual members of the Trinity: The Father is the ultimate source or cause of the universe (1 Corinthians 8:6; Revelation 4:11); divine revelation (Revelation 1:1); salvation (John 3:16-17); and Jesus' human works (John 5:17; 14:10). The Father initiates all of these things.
The Son is the agent throug
he didn't say that at all in fact the said the exact opposite.....Matthew 4:10 (Jesus said it himself worship only God) and John 20:17 (you can't be your own father or God).........I hope I helped take care
You are right, and in passages such as John 17:3 he made it quite clear that ';the only true God'; was someone other than himself.
God is always capitalized
He said it in a variety of ways in the Gospels. Try John 3:16
He did.
I and my Father are One, He who has seen me has seen The Father.
John 14:7-10
7 If you had known me, you would have known my Father also. From now on, you know him, and have seen him.'; 8 Philip said to him, ';Lord, show us the Father, and that will be enough for us.'; 9 Jesus said to him, ';Have I been with you such a long time, and do you not know me, Philip? He who has seen me has seen the Father. How do you say, 'Show us the Father?' 10 Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? The words that I tell you, I speak not from myself; but the Father living in me does his works.
I just want to know if this is true.Christians, where in the bible does Jesus claim to BE the one and true god?
Here you go, clear as can be in John 10:30
John 10:25-30
25Jesus answered, ';I did tell you, but you do not believe. The miracles I do in my Father's name speak for me, 26but you do not believe because you are not my sheep. 27My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. 29My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all[d]; no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand. 30I and the Father are one.';Christians, where in the bible does Jesus claim to BE the one and true god?
I'd like to add that, if Jesus is indeed ';one'; with God in a literal sense, then you may wish to revise the thought of a trinity to one including many more gods as part of the same whole. This is because Jesus said that his followers were all ';one'; with each other, and wanted them to be in union with him and God. - John 17:21-24
Well... Jesus is the Son of God.
John 3:16
';For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.';
1 Corinthians 1:9
';God, who has called you into fellowship with his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, is faithful.';
1 John 4:15
';If anyone acknowledges that Jesus is the Son of God, God lives in him and he in God.';
I hope that helped. (=
When He forgives sins
When He accepts worship
When He commands the powers of nature
When He raises the dead
When He cures lepers by an act of His will
When He rises from trhe dead
Jesus spent His entire public life doing things only God can do. Is it necessary that He say ';I AM GOD'; in words? Actions speak louder than words.
First - here's the background that all of the Jews knew.
1. God met Abraham as three men.
Genesis 18:1-2 The LORD appeared to Abraham near the great trees of Mamre while he was sitting at the entrance to his tent in the heat of the day. (2) Abraham looked up and saw three men standing nearby. When he saw them, he hurried from the entrance of his tent to meet them and bowed low to the ground.
2. God says His name is ';I AM';.
Exodus 3:13-14 Moses said to God, ';Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, 'The God of your fathers has sent me to you,' and they ask me, 'What is his name?' Then what shall I tell them?'; (14) God said to Moses, ';I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'I AM has sent me to you.'';
Now, here is Jesus' claim:
John 8:57-58 The Jews therefore said to him, ';You are not yet fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham?'; (58) Jesus said to them, ';Most certainly, I tell you, before Abraham came into existence, I AM.';
Their response?
John 8:59 At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds.
Why? They did not believe him and they knew this law.
Leviticus 24:16 anyone who blasphemes the name of the LORD must be put to death. The entire assembly must stone him. Whether an alien or native-born, when he blasphemes the Name, he must be put to death.
P.S. When Jesus is saying He is one with the Father, He is talking relationally. Jesus is one with the Father in more than one way.
i don't recall him saying he was God specifically. You need to understand the trinity to understand Jesus's role. and since you know about it all thats left is understanding it
It is called the trinity.
The most difficult thing about the Christian concept of the Trinity is that there is no way to adequately explain it. The Trinity is a concept that is impossible for any human being to fully understand, let alone explain. God is infinitely greater than we are, therefore we should not expect to be able to fully understand Him. The Bible teaches that the Father is God, that Jesus is God, and that the Holy Spirit is God. The Bible also teaches that there is only one God. Though we can understand some facts about the relationship of the different persons of the Trinity to one another, ultimately, it is incomprehensible to the human mind. However, this does not mean it is not true or not based on the teachings of the Bible.
Keep in mind when studying this subject that the word ';Trinity'; is not used in Scripture. This is a term that is used to attempt to describe the triune God, the fact that there are three coexistent, co-eternal persons that make up God. Understand that this is NOT in any way suggesting three Gods. The Trinity is one God made up of three persons. There is nothing wrong with using the term ';Trinity'; even though the word is not found in the Bible. It is shorter to say the word ';Trinity'; than to say ';three coexistent, co-eternal persons making up one God.'; If this presents a problem to you, consider this: the word grandfather is not used in the Bible either. Yet, we know there were grandfathers in the Bible. Abraham was the grandfather of Jacob. What should be of real importance is that the concept that is represented by the word ';Trinity'; does exist in Scripture. With the introduction out of the way, Bible verses will be given in discussion of the Trinity.
1) There is one God: Deuteronomy 6:4; 1 Corinthians 8:4; Galatians 3:20; 1 Timothy 2:5.
2) The Trinity consists of three Persons: Genesis 1:1; 1:26; 3:22; 11:7; Isaiah 6:8; 48:16; 61:1; Matthew 3:16-17; Matt 28:19; 2 Corinthians 13:14. In the passages in the Old Testament, a knowledge of Hebrew is helpful. In Genesis 1:1, the plural noun ';Elohim'; is used. In Genesis 1:26; 3:22; 11:7 and Isaiah 6:8, the plural pronoun for ';us'; is used. That ';Elohim'; and ';us'; refer to more than two is without question. In English, we only have two forms, singular and plural. In Hebrew, you have three forms: singular, dual, and plural. Dual is for two ONLY. In Hebrew, the dual form is used for things that come in pairs like eyes, ears, and hands. The word ';Elohim'; and the pronoun ';us'; are plural forms—definitely more than two—and must be referring to three or more, in this case Father, Son, Holy Spirit.
In Isaiah 48:16 and 61:1, the Son is speaking while making reference to the Father and the Holy Spirit. Compare Isaiah 61:1 to Luke 4:14-19 to see that it is the Son speaking. Matthew 3:16-17 describes the event of Jesus' baptism. Seen in this is God the Holy Spirit descending on God the Son while God the Father proclaims His pleasure in the Son. Matthew 28:19 and 2 Corinthians 13:14 are examples of three distinct persons in the Trinity.
3) The members of the Trinity are distinguished one from another in various passages: In the Old Testament, ';LORD'; is distinguished from ';Lord'; (Genesis 19:24; Hosea 1:4). The LORD has a Son (Psalm 2:7, 12; Proverbs 30:2-4). Spirit is distinguished from the “LORD” (Numbers 27:18) and from ';God'; (Psalm 51:10-12). God the Son is distinguished from God the Father (Psalm 45:6-7; Hebrews 1:8-9). In the New Testament John 14:16-17, Jesus speaks to the Father about sending a Helper, the Holy Spirit. This shows that Jesus did not consider Himself to be the Father or the Holy Spirit. Consider also all of the other times in the Gospels where Jesus speaks to the Father. Was He speaking to Himself? No. He spoke to another person in the Trinity—the Father.
4) Each member of the Trinity is God: The Father is God: John 6:27; Romans 1:7; 1 Peter 1:2. The Son is God: John 1:1, 14; Romans 9:5; Colossians 2:9; Hebrews 1:8; 1 John 5:20. The Holy Spirit is God: Acts 5:3-4; 1 Corinthians 3:16. (The One who indwells is the Holy Spirit - Romans 8:9; John 14:16-17; Acts 2:1-4).
5) The subordination within the Trinity: Scripture shows that the Holy Spirit is subordinate to the Father and the Son, and the Son is subordinate to the Father. This is an internal relationship and does not deny the deity of any person of the Trinity. This is simply an area which our finite minds cannot understand concerning the infinite God. Concerning the Son see: Luke 22:42; John 5:36; John 20:21; 1 John 4:14. Concerning the Holy Spirit see: John 14:16; 14:26; 15:26; 16:7 and especially John 16:13-14.
6) The tasks of the individual members of the Trinity: The Father is the ultimate source or cause of the universe (1 Corinthians 8:6; Revelation 4:11); divine revelation (Revelation 1:1); salvation (John 3:16-17); and Jesus' human works (John 5:17; 14:10). The Father initiates all of these things.
The Son is the agent throug
he didn't say that at all in fact the said the exact opposite.....Matthew 4:10 (Jesus said it himself worship only God) and John 20:17 (you can't be your own father or God).........I hope I helped take care
You are right, and in passages such as John 17:3 he made it quite clear that ';the only true God'; was someone other than himself.
God is always capitalized
He said it in a variety of ways in the Gospels. Try John 3:16
He did.
I and my Father are One, He who has seen me has seen The Father.
John 14:7-10
7 If you had known me, you would have known my Father also. From now on, you know him, and have seen him.'; 8 Philip said to him, ';Lord, show us the Father, and that will be enough for us.'; 9 Jesus said to him, ';Have I been with you such a long time, and do you not know me, Philip? He who has seen me has seen the Father. How do you say, 'Show us the Father?' 10 Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? The words that I tell you, I speak not from myself; but the Father living in me does his works.
Is it true that Obama covered up a picture of Jesus during a speech he made?
I just heard something about that, but didn't catch the whole story.
Anyone hear anything about that?Is it true that Obama covered up a picture of Jesus during a speech he made?
http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/ar鈥?/a>Is it true that Obama covered up a picture of Jesus during a speech he made?
i didn't vote for Obama, but I have to laugh at all this worthless propaganda. He's affluent, Ivy League-educated, Christian, married with kids, and fulfills the presidential status quo with the exception of being 100% white. Get over it. He's in the White House for the next few years. Stop making up stuff that has nothing to do with politics and focus on something that matters. You should be grateful you have a president who respects all faith.
No, it's not exactly true. He gave a speech at a Catholic university (Georgetown) and asked them to have a plain background. The people who allowed him to speak there set up the background but they had to cover 3 letters that they used to represent the name of Jesus above the background in order to suit our ';Christian'; President.
Not quite. He was speaking at Georgetown University in Gaston Hall. He asked them to cover up any symbols with flags or drapes to give a plain background that he always used in speeches. One of the symbols there is a monogram that represents Jesus, IHS. They covered it up too.
Yes someone asked the question earlier and there was a link to a news article about it.
But let's think for a moment. Do you remember when Mike Huckabee was running for president and he was interviewed, I think in his home, and people were pitching fits because there was a ';cross'; behind him? It turned out to be a bookshelf, where two corners met.
If President Obama had made a speech with a picture of Jesus behind him, what do you think would have happened? Would people have listened to anything he said or pitched a fit over his ';pushing Jesus on everyone';??
I'm not saying it's right that he did it. I'm not saying it's wrong that he did it. What I'm saying is....can we stop going crazy about things like this and work together to figure out how to pull our country out of this mess!!!???
First of all there is no true picture of Holy Jesus is available, and pretending any image as Jesus is disgrace to Holy personality of Jesus.
No he didn't, stop making crap up. I heard he had Michelle holding up a sign behind him with a picture of Jesus that had a big red X across his face.
Sounds like fear mongering from the religious right, who will do anything to discredit a Democrat.
I heard he sacrificed a virgin puppy to Satan on the day of his inauguration.
No. But I wouldn't be surprised.
I highly, highly doubt that.
Seriously, what would be the damn point?
Anyone hear anything about that?Is it true that Obama covered up a picture of Jesus during a speech he made?
http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/ar鈥?/a>Is it true that Obama covered up a picture of Jesus during a speech he made?
i didn't vote for Obama, but I have to laugh at all this worthless propaganda. He's affluent, Ivy League-educated, Christian, married with kids, and fulfills the presidential status quo with the exception of being 100% white. Get over it. He's in the White House for the next few years. Stop making up stuff that has nothing to do with politics and focus on something that matters. You should be grateful you have a president who respects all faith.
No, it's not exactly true. He gave a speech at a Catholic university (Georgetown) and asked them to have a plain background. The people who allowed him to speak there set up the background but they had to cover 3 letters that they used to represent the name of Jesus above the background in order to suit our ';Christian'; President.
Not quite. He was speaking at Georgetown University in Gaston Hall. He asked them to cover up any symbols with flags or drapes to give a plain background that he always used in speeches. One of the symbols there is a monogram that represents Jesus, IHS. They covered it up too.
Yes someone asked the question earlier and there was a link to a news article about it.
But let's think for a moment. Do you remember when Mike Huckabee was running for president and he was interviewed, I think in his home, and people were pitching fits because there was a ';cross'; behind him? It turned out to be a bookshelf, where two corners met.
If President Obama had made a speech with a picture of Jesus behind him, what do you think would have happened? Would people have listened to anything he said or pitched a fit over his ';pushing Jesus on everyone';??
I'm not saying it's right that he did it. I'm not saying it's wrong that he did it. What I'm saying is....can we stop going crazy about things like this and work together to figure out how to pull our country out of this mess!!!???
First of all there is no true picture of Holy Jesus is available, and pretending any image as Jesus is disgrace to Holy personality of Jesus.
No he didn't, stop making crap up. I heard he had Michelle holding up a sign behind him with a picture of Jesus that had a big red X across his face.
Sounds like fear mongering from the religious right, who will do anything to discredit a Democrat.
I heard he sacrificed a virgin puppy to Satan on the day of his inauguration.
No. But I wouldn't be surprised.
I highly, highly doubt that.
Seriously, what would be the damn point?
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