Catholics is it true Mary the mother of Jesus is a mediator between you and God?

Catholics is it true Mary the mother of Jesus is a mediator between you and God?





1Ti 2:5 For [there is] one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Catholics is it true Mary the mother of Jesus is a mediator between you and God?
Mary is dead? the saints are dead? these people must worship the god of the dead.Catholics is it true Mary the mother of Jesus is a mediator between you and God?
Is it true that when someone else asks you to pray for them, you are a mediator between them and God? Do you tell them ';why ask me, you don't need a middleman, you can talk to Him directly';?





Didn't think so.





Either 1 Timothy 2:15 applies to every situation of intercessory prayer for others, or it does not. You can't have it both ways -- applying it to us for asking the saints' intercession, but not to you.
The verse you provided says it all. Mary did not die for our souls, nor was she crucified on a cross by the very ones who started Catholicism in the first place - the Romans.





Mary is not a/the ';Co-Redeemer with Christ';. His sacrifice alone was sufficient for our salvation, and this ';Mary doctrine'; and many others like it are unscriptural and straight out of the pit.





Christ's sacrifice alone is Mediator between us and eternal life.
A couple have said it already, there is a difference between a mediator and an intercessor. Jesus is our only mediator, we can all be intercessors for each other. A mediator is a link from God to man. Any time a christian prays for another, he or she is an intercessor.
Mary did give birth to Christ. That's also in the Bible. Through out the gospels she is mentioned as Jesus's mother. We know that she only gave birth to His human aspect, but since we believe that God creates all of us with a purpose, we believe that she was created to bear and raise the Christ child. That makes her pretty special in our eyes. If you read the gospels, you'll see that she followed with him much of his life and that she loved him. If you look at his life from a mother's perspective Christ's sacrifice has a very human, personal and touching message. I never really understood the human aspect of Christ until I looked at it from the idea that he was a child raised by loving parents.





Mary and the saints can pray for us, the same way that you could pray for me. Because Mary is in heaven, with her son, we believe that she is more connected to Jesus than some one living on earth. Also, mothers know their children. She is helps us to know Christ and Christ is a part of the Trinity, so in that sense she is a mediator between God and man, but in a similar sense to that where your pastor is, since he prays for you and devoutly hopes you'll know Christ. She is not a direct line to the Father, the way Christ is however, That is not implied at all in Catholicism.





Hope this clarifies things.
Let us see if we can keep this simple : There is God the Father ; God the Son and God the Holy Spirit; three Divine Persons but one God: The Holy Trinity. Jesus is God the Son, the second Person of the Holy Trinity and He is the one usually referred to as the Mediator between God and men ; You can think of Him as the Mediator because He is fully God and He is fully man ; thus He is a like a “Living Bridge” between God and man. The Virgin Mary is referred to as the Mother of God because She bore and gave birth to Jesus who is God the Son ; As can be readily seen in the events of the miracle at the wedding of Cana, it so pleased God to assign the role of Intercessor to the Virgin Mary as a mean to share in His Redemptive Work. This role of intercessor is a privilege that is available to all of us who are willing to let God use us as He please, but was given in particular to the Virgin Mary because of Her flawless willingness to cooperate with God’s Grace. The co-redemptive dimension of the role of intercessor does not take away from Grace but is a share in Grace that was set aside for us by God as a gift of the Groom who wishes to share his most intimate treasures with His Bride, the Church ; such a gift should be received gracefully ; and none is more graceful than the Virgin Mary. So relax, God has it all under control.
She can intercede on our behalf to God, just like any other saint. Calling for her help is not a requirement; we can and do pray directly to God; there is only one Mediator between us and God, and He is Jesus Christ.





God bless.
No. Catholics do not blieve that Mary is a mediator between us and God. You gave the verse that gives the reason catholics do not believe this.





Thank you.
It might help if you knew WHY. . .





Mary is our Mother and Queen of the New Davidic Kingdom


John 19:26 - Jesus makes Mary the Mother of us all as He dies on the Cross by saying ';behold your mother.'; Jesus did not say ';John, behold your mother'; because he gave Mary to all of us, his beloved disciples. All the words that Jesus spoke on Cross had a divine purpose. Jesus was not just telling John to take care of his mother.





Rev. 12:17 - this verse proves the meaning of John 19:26. The ';woman's'; (Mary's) offspring are those who follow Jesus. She is our Mother and we are her offspring in Jesus Christ. The master plan of God's covenant love for us is family. But we cannot be a complete family with the Fatherhood of God and the Brotherhood of Christ without the Motherhood of Mary.





John 2:3 - this is a very signifcant verse in Scripture. As our mother, Mary tells all of us to do whatever Jesus tells us. Further, Mary's intercession at the marriage feast in Cana triggers Jesus' ministry and a foreshadowing of the Eucharistic celebration of the Lamb. This celebration unites all believers into one famiy through the marriage of divinity and humanity.





John 2:7 - Jesus allows His mother to intercede for the people on His behalf, and responds to His mother's request by ordering the servants to fill the jars with water.





Psalm 45:9 - the psalmist teaches that the Queen stands at the right hand of God. The role of the Queen is important in God's kingdom. Mary the Queen of heaven is at the right hand of the Son of God.





1 Kings 2:17, 20 - in the Old Testament Davidic kingdom, the King does not refuse his mother. Jesus is the new Davidic King, and He does not refuse the requests of his mother Mary, the Queen.





1 Kings 2:18 - in the Old Testament Davidic kingdom, the Queen intercedes on behalf of the King's followers. She is the Queen Mother (or ';Gebirah';). Mary is our eternal Gebirah.





1 Kings 2:19 - in the Old Testament Davidic kingdom the King bows down to his mother and she sits at his right hand. We, as children of the New Covenant, should imitate our King and pay the same homage to Mary our Mother. By honoring Mary, we honor our King, Jesus Christ.





1 Kings 15:13 - the Queen Mother is a powerful position in Israel's royal monarchy. Here the Queen is removed from office. But now, the Davidic kingdom is perfected by Jesus, and our Mother Mary is forever at His right hand.





2 Chron. 22:10 - here Queen Mother Athalia destroys the royal family of Judah after she sees her son, King Ahaziah, dead. The Queen mother plays a significant role in the kingdom.





Neh. 2:6 - the Queen Mother sits beside the King. She is the primary intercessor before the King.



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I am not a catholic, But an Apostolic Pentecostal, There is only one mediator %26amp; that is Jesus Christ. Mary is dead %26amp; her body awaits the resurrection.
No, it's not true. She does intercede for any who ask her to. Intercession and mediation are different acts.






Typical fundie thinking take one line from the bible and throw out the rest of the Bible...








Do Those in Heaven Pray for us





Not only do those in heaven pray with us, they also pray for us. In the book of Revelation, we read: ';[An] angel came and stood at the altar [in heaven] with a golden censer; and he was given much incense to mingle with the prayers of all the saints upon the golden altar before the throne; and the smoke of the incense rose with the prayers of the saints from the hand of the angel before God'; (Rev. 8:3-4).








Fundamentalists often challenge the Catholic practice of asking saints and angels to pray on our behalf. But the Bible directs us to invoke those in heaven and ask them to pray with us.





Does the Bible Invoke those in Heaven to pray for us





Thus, in Psalm 103 we pray, ';Bless the Lord, O you his angels, you mighty ones who do his word, hearkening to the voice of his word! Bless the Lord, all his hosts, his ministers that do his will!'; (Ps. 103:20–21). And in the opening verses of Psalms 148 we pray, ';Praise the Lord! Praise the Lord from the heavens, praise him in the heights! Praise him, all his angels, praise him, all his host!';





Jesus himself warned us not to offend small children, because their guardian angels have guaranteed intercessory access to the Father: ';See that you do not despise one of these little ones; for I tell you that in heaven their angels always see the face of my Father who is in heaven'; (Matt. 18:10).








Because he is the only God-man and the Mediator of the New Covenant, Jesus is the only mediator between man and God (1 Tim. 2:5), but this in no way means we cannot or should not ask our fellow Christians to pray with us and for us (1 Tim. 2:1–4). In particular, we should ask the intercession of those Christians in heaven, who have already had their sanctification completed, for ';[t]he prayer of a righteous man has great power in its effects'; (Jas. 5:16).








';But not the high priest [Christ] alone prays for those who pray sincerely, but also the angels . . . as also the souls of the saints who have already fallen asleep








Rom 6:3-4


Or are you unaware that we who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were indeed buried with him through baptism into death, so that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might live in newness of life.





Col 2:12


You were buried with him in baptism, in which you were also raised with him through faith in the power of God, who raised him from the dead.





Pray at all times in the Spirit, with all prayer and supplication. To that end keep alert with all perseverance, making supplication for all the saints, the saints, and also for me, that utterance may be given me in opening my mouth boldly to proclaim the mystery of the gospel, for which I am an ambassador in chains; that I may declare it boldly, as I ought to speak'; (Ephesians 6:18-20).








';First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all men, for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life, godly and respectful in every way. This is good, and it is acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth'; (1 Timothy 2:1-4).








But doesn't the Bible says Jesus is the only Mediator between God and man?


A: Yes, it does; in 1 Timothy 2:5 (';For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus';), but we just quoted the four verses immediately preceding this one, and you will remember that in them Paul said: ';I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all men.';





So the fact that Jesus is the one Mediator between God and man does not prevent other people from acting as intercessors. And we know intercessory prayer certainly does not displease God, for in the same passage we just cited, Paul tells us: ';This is good, and it is acceptable in the sight of God our Savior


I am sometimes stunned at how people can hop up and down about what Paul says in 1 Timothy 2:5 and yet miss the subject of intercessory prayer, which is not only the topic of the preceding four verses, but the segue into the discussion of Jesus' unique Mediatorship.





Second, he is the only Mediator between God and man because he is the Mediator of the New Covenant, by which we obtain salvation. This sense of his unique Mediatorship, however, does not prevent other people from being mediators in a parallel sense, for Moses is described as the mediator of the Old Covenant (Galatians 3:19-20), just as Jesus is the Mediator of the New Covenant (Hebrews 8:6, 9:15, 12:24; note that the Greek word used in the Galatians and Hebrews passages, mesites = mediator, is the same as in 1 Timothy 2:5). However, since the Mosaic covenant is now defunct, that leaves Jesus as the only covenant Mediator today.








';But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust'; (Matthew 5:44-45)





The unique Mediatorship of Christ thus no more prevents our brother and sister Christians in heaven from praying for us than it prevents our brother and sister Christians here on earth from praying for us. It is intercessory prayer in both cases





In fact, the saints in heaven are even more suited to this than living Christians (the saints on earth) because they have undivided devotion toward God. Here on earth we are afflicted with lethargy, distractions, difficulty in concentration, and lack of fervor in prayer, but in heaven none of these are the case. Our brothers and sisters in heaven are the perfect prayer warriors, having been freed of the distractions of the body.





For example, consider the following verses and the concern they show those in heaven having for what happens on earth:


';Then one of the elders [who represent the hierarchy of the people of God in heaven] addressed me, saying, 'Who are these, clothed in white robes, and whence have they come?' I said to him, 'Sir, you know.' And he said to me, 'These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb'; (Revelation 7:13-14).


';[A]nd they [the elders] sang a new song, saying, 'Worthy art thou to take the scroll and to open its seals, for thou wast slain and by thy blood didst ransom men for God from every tribe and tongue and people and nation, and hast made them a kingdom and priests to our God, and they shall reign on earth''; (Revelation 5:9-10).


';Then the seventh angel blew his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, saying, 'The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ [this tells us these are the voices of humans], and he shall reign for ever and ever''; (Revelation 11:15).


';And the twenty-four elders who sit on their thrones before God fell on their faces and worshipped God, saying, 'We give thanks to thee, Lord God Almighty, who art and who wast, that thou hast taken thy great power and begun to reign. The nations raged, but thy wrath came, and the time for the dead to be judged, for rewarding thy servants, the prophets and saints, and those who fear thy name, both small and great, and for destroying the destroyers of the earth''; (Revelation 11:16-18).


';And I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, 'Now the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren [this indicates it is a human voice] has been thrown down, who accuses them day and night before our God. And they have conquered him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, for they loved not their lives even unto death. Rejoice then, O heaven and you that dwell therein! But woe to you, O earth and sea, for the devil has come down to you in great wrath, because he knows that his time is short!''; (Revelation 12:10-12).


After this I heard what seemed to be the loud voice of a great multitude in heaven, crying, 'Hallelujah! Salvation and glory and power belong to our God, for his judgments are true and just; he has judged the great harlot who corrupted the earth with her fornication, and he has avenged on her the blood of his servants.' Once





How do you know the saints in heaven are praying for us





';And Onias spoke, saying, 'This is a man who loves the brethren and prays much for the people and the holy city, Jeremiah, the prophet of God''; (2 Maccabees 15:14).





What makes you think the saints can hear our prayers?


A: The very verses we just quoted. It goes without saying, for example, that our guardian angels are aware of what we are doing. It is their job to guard us, after all, so we can be sure they know what we are doing and when we are asking them to pray for us.


And in the same way, when we read of the saints in heaven offering our prayers to God in the form of incense (Revelation 5:8, 8:3-4), we know they are aware of our prayers.


Remember: Most of the saints don't have physical bodies right now. They furthermore don't have physical prayer request cards or physical incense or anything like that. This means that when they are pictured as presenting God with our prayers, they are not physically presenting him with our prayers, so they must be mentally presenting them to him. But if they are mentally presenting our prayers to God then they must be aware of our prayers.
Sldgman is right we don't believe she is a mediator between us and God
i thought JC was a God now he is just a mediator


thanks for the heads up
That obviously not in the bible that Mary is the meditator. but that has never stoped catholics making up crap.





OK looked up ';intercessory prayer'; but the question is why mary, Isn't Jesus suppose to be the mediator.''





EDIT


';Panda Bear, if not for Catholics you would not have your mutilated (by Luther) Bible to thump, historical fact. ';





Too bad catholics didnt want to share the bible with the common people. It was luther who made it avalible to the common people in his time ( by translating into greek) , and when they found out things like indulgences where not based on the bible and the they had been lied too they rioted





EDIT





';Any time a christian prays for another, he or she is an intercessor.';





Well isn't Mary dead, not like she could pray for us.
It is true. The problem is that Catholics found that when praying to Jesus they constantly got ';I have to go ask my mommy if I can do that.'; So Catholics realized it would be easier to just cut Jesus out of the loop and go straight to the parent. This way, when they pray to Mary she tells Jesus what to do or he gets grounded.